Salt Lake Comic Con 2014 – Marvel Movies Phase III Panel

The Marvel Movies Phase III Panel at the Salt Lake Comic Con was basically the summation of confirmed reports and rumors surrounding the third phase of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Avengers 2: Age of Ultron (May 1, 2015) marks the end of Phase II, and Ant-Man (July 17, 2015) will mark the beginning of phase three. None of the panel members were affiliated with Marvel, instead they were a local collection of fans who scour the internet constantly for new information surrounding the MCU.

Warning: If you consider rumors to be spoilers, then you might want to skip this.

Ant-Man Poster
Ant-Man Poster

Ant-Man

Since Ant-Man will be coming out first it is understandably the movie the panel knew the most about. Ant-Man is being directed by a man who is known for comedies, so the hope it is will have that light playful feel of other Marvel movies.

The anticipated style is that of a detective movie. At the beginning, an old Hank Pym (Michael Douglas), a retired superhero, has his Ant-Man technology stolen. He enlists the help of a thief to recover his lost property and in the process trains Scott Lang (Paul Rudd) to be the new Ant-Man.

The release date of July 17 this coming summer is incredibly aggressive, considering they are still filming the movie right now. Given all the post production that goes into a super hero film, it sounds like a very tight schedule.

Captain America 3

Just as Captain America: The Winter Soldier was something of spy movie, the same director pair has said that Captain America 3 (May 6, 2016) will also have that spy feeling to it. Rumors about supporting characters vary including Hawkeye, Agent 13 (the next door nurse from Winter Soldier), and Black Widow (potential love interest). Few people in the audience thought that Black Widow and Captain America should be a thing. In the comics Captain America has a relationship with Agent 13, but also ultimately has a son with Black Widow.

Here is the line where things go almost full rumor.

Dr. Strange

The only thing known for sure about Dr. Strange is that currently a director known for horror films is slated to make it. Although Joaquin Phoenix appears to be the favorite, there have been some rumors surrounding the idea of Johnny Depp playing Dr. Strange.

Guardians 2 and Avengers 3

Guardians 2 was announced before Guardians of the Galaxy came out. Since both Guardians and the Avengers are dealing with Infinity stones, it is suspected you will see these two ensembles meet in Avengers 3 regarding the Infinity Gauntlet.

Black Panther

Stan Lee has made several statements that support Black Panther will be made, but without any details. When asked by a fan at Salt Lake Comic Con he said this:

Oh, I wish I knew. I love the Black Panther. I know that they’re figuring out how to do the movie. I don’t think it’s scheduled yet, but be patient, because sooner or later the Black Panther will strike.

Marvel has a block of release dates going through 2019 with many of the films untitled. Plenty of room for Thor 3, Black Widow, and others. Someone in the audience asked about Civil War, the rumor on the street is that Disney may do a Pixar animated movie of Civil War.

Highlights from 2014 – 2nd Quarter

Meta Suggested:

alexwlchan suggested the two questions which happened to be the two highest voted questions in the quarter:

Avner Shahar-Kashtan mentioned DVK’s question How exactly is the Secret Fire similar to the Holy Spirit? He also liked The Valar and their power to create and the answer to Did the force-like magic exist within LOTR books?.

It was a very Harry Potter centric quarter for DVK’s favorites:

I mostly remember these [answers] because they were for the questions I asked, so there’s a certain bias [here.]

How do wizards prevent Accio-fueled robberies?

The answer by alexwlchan is wonderfully canon including sourcing a canon source I wasn’t even aware of before!

Would Severus Snape be classified with ASPD? by Slytherincess – AND a competing answer by alexwlchan. Amazing analysis.

Overpowering The Elder wand by Slytherincess.

Why didn’t Quirrell keep the flying key? by alexwlchan. Especially since it was posted right after I made a fool of myself by commenting that there’s no canon answer.

DVK also liked the research aspect of what initially seemed like a “D’uh” answer to Which are the Two Towers in Lord of the Rings?

Interesting Stats:

The question with the most votes AND the most views goes to Does Batman use Linux? asked by user3058846. The second runner up for most votes was How did Dumbledore, or anyone, know Lily had sacrificed herself for Harry? and the second runner up for most views was What are the rules of Trial by Combat in Game of Thrones?

The top two answers were to Why was Hermione not in Ravenclaw? answered by alexwlchan and Who is / was the “Lord of the Rings”? answered by SQB

The First Formic War (Ender’s Game Prequel Trilogy)

The First Formic War is a trilogy (Earth Unaware, Earth Afire, Earth Awakens) set in the Enderverse leading up to the first Formic invasion.

I was both excited and afraid when I found out there would a prequel trilogy about the initial Bugger (Formic) invasion. I was excited because I love Ender’s Game. I didn’t get too much into the Shadow series, but I’ve read all of the novels directly involving Ender repeatedly. I was afraid because I hate prequels. It seems to me that every prequel in existence tramples on existing canon. I don’t know if it is because authors are incapable of reading their own source material, or too blinded by the dollar signs, but they can’t keep their stories straight.

The First Contact

Ender’s Game spells out the first contact story pretty well. Eros (the Asteroid) suddenly blacks out, a team is sent to investigate, and they are subsequently murdered by Buggers. I really expected this story to play out in the first book. Therefore I was quite surprised when it never did. In Earth Unaware, first contact takes place in the Kuiper Belt. It makes sense that it would probably be further out, particularly with the current interest in space mining and expansion in general, but still.

The Terminology

At some point Orson Scott Card decided not to use the slang term Bugger and instead always use Formic. The term Bugger does not exist in these books, nor in the Ender’s Game movie. I feel that is very strange. It is in our nature to label our enemies with derogatory or otherwise slang names. And yet other than the novel Ender’s Game and Speaker For the Dead, people are very careful to always use the technical term.

The Technology

My number one issue with the books is their introduction of what eventually will be called the Little Doctor (or MD Device). It is clearly started in Ender’s Game that the Little Doctor came after the second invasion. This is further backed up in Ender In Exile when Ender discovers the Little Doctor is actually a result of an uncontained faster-than-light drive, which humans got from the Buggers. It is stated by Ender and Mazer that up until the start of the third war, they were using nuclear missiles as their primary space-based weapon. So it is frustrating to read about the Little Doctor being developed before the Buggers arrive.

In contrast, the introduction of what becomes ultimately becomes the Battle Room gear is a nice touch. It shows that humans were developing these devices for the military already, and they just adapted it later for Battle School.

The Action

The problem with prequels is that if you are going to include a character who shows up later (such as Mazer Rackman) you know that character is going to make it. There are several times throughout the books where he is in trouble, and to me, these are wasted pages. You can’t kill a character who is going to show up later, so there is no suspense. Mazer has a love interest that he has to leave because of his duty to the military. Is this a heart breaking moment? No, because we know from Ender’s Game that when Mazer left in hyperspace to jump forward in time, he left behind a wife and family. It is hard to get anxious about events that you know are going to work out.

The new characters were all more interesting to me. Because there isn’t anything keeping them alive. An interesting character in a bad situation will peak my interest. An essentially invincible character (from a future story point of view) on the other hand is less interesting (I’m looking at you, Superman). The tension comes because sometimes interesting characters die (unless your name is George R. R. Martin, in which all of them die).

The Summary

These books are okay. The cover credits Orson Scott Card and Aaron Johnston as the writers. Based on the writing, you get the impression it is more of the latter than the former. Everything about the book just doesn’t feel like Card, and I feel like he was more of a consultant than anything else. At no point did I ever stop reading because of the writing (such as with Eragon). They are good stories in there and interesting ideas but they are not great.

I feel like the things which were just briefly mentioned (such as China’s decimation, or the Battle of the Belt) were done well. The more specific the details, the more the prequels seem to feel the need to run them over.

Salt Lake Comic Con Fan Xperience

Salt Lake Comic Con Fan Xperience

I was able to attend the Salt Lake Comic Con Fan Xperience this last weekend. What does Fan Xperience mean? I think it means that because of the success of the first SLC Comic Con they decided to do an encore. The list of celebrities was extensive, and included such people as:

  • Patrick Stewart
  • Nathan Fillion
  • William Shatner
  • Karl Urban
  • Karen Gillan
  • Edward James Olmos
  • Billy Dee Williams
  • Jason David Frank
  • Jonathan Frakes
  • Chandler Riggs
  • Adam Baldwin

I went the first evening for a few hours and basically just walked around. They had panels and celebrity autograph signings, but because of my late arrival, I didn’t participate in any of those. This was the first Comic Con I’ve ever attended.

 

Crowds
Crowds

They say a franchise is only as good as its car, so I guess these are the top franchises.

The Delorean
The Delorean

 

A more modern version of Ecto 1
A more modern version of Ecto 1

 

The Batmobile (circa 1966)
The Batmobile (circa 1966)

 

Shuttle craft
Shuttle craft

 

There were a few good LEGO builds (in my opinion) from the local Utah LEGO group.

 

Ghostbusters
Ghostbusters

 

Isengard
Isengard

 

Helms Deep
Helms Deep

 

Bridge of the Enterprise-D
Bridge of the Enterprise-D

 

Some castle.
Some castle.

 

I guess there is a company that will built you astromech robots.

 

Astromech
Astromech

 

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I saw a couple really good costumes, and a lot of really terrible costumes. There many local arts peddling their wares, of which a lot was intriguing and fun to see. I think because this was something of a supplemental Comic Con it is smaller than the one that will be happening in September.

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